}, It will only raise the plow with touch all the way up. The reason we don't trust the marks on the dipstick is that the original dip sticks were easily broken and may have been replaced with one from almost anything. Turn off the engine and remove the right side access cover (the one with the dipstick) and slide your hand down along the control rod into the oil and feel the end of the rod where it goes into the control valve pivot. "@type": "Organization", Get to the tough questions and you go all shy on me? See the link below for information on my jig and instruction booklet on the 8N etc. Plate was about 1/32 concave on one edge. If the cam follower pin is worn replace it. I'll let you know how I do. Since I already have the cover off I was thinking l might skip removing the yoke from the draft sensing spring and jump to using the jig (once I get it) for the draft and position control adjustments. Just give them a ring to get started. This is easy to check just remove the side door and watch the oil move. STOP when the fluid begins to leak out of the bolt hole. It appears you have just learned this to be true! Of course, once you diagnose the problem you still need to fix it! Thanks. It consists of a pto driven piston type pump with internal control valves and a lift cylinder connected to the rear lift arms. We keep the brush down in the woods. Still, that is just native grass and weeds. )* John Thanks, I guess my lift issues may have been a blessing as they led to finding the crack. Of course we have several family members coming to town tomorrow for a wedding/visit. Required fields are marked *. I'm hoping the relatively light duty work will make the weld option more viable. What do you think? You can remove the piston fron the cylinder by applying a little compressed air to the oil inlet hole in the cylinder. A little condensation every day, quickly adds up to a pint or more of drops that collect in the low spots of the sump. "@type": "Organization", I replaced the pin, but still need to order Zane's jig to properly adjust. Get to the tough questions and you go all shy on me? I had a similar, though much less serious, crack in the ram arm on my 55 860. The 8N hydraulic system is simple yet elegant and works great when properly adjusted and maintained. After starting the lift arms go all the way up and will not come down. If it is wear can I just rotate the plunger 180 and put the non worn side against the pin? Did you ever solve it? Should the cam be smooth across its width? $97.57 $101.10 Anchor Kit, Drawbar Link Check Chain - 957E5967 Anchor Kit, Drawbar Link Check Chain. Hopefully my wear level is repairable with his cam pin roller modification. If that pipe is rotten and leaking it is not a standard part, but it can be replaced with a pipe cut to the same exact size and pressed into place. Then, wet some rags & stuff them in the cover to catch the shavings when you grind it back down. of the hydraulic touch control lever and lift arms to be sure they were not moved while making the adjustments. "@context":"https://schema.org", Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Zane, Thanks for the info. Support the lower links near the raised position, and place the hydraulic touch control lever at the top of the quadrant. BTW, did you see my bent control arm pic? The 9N-2N linkage is different and not usually bent. Am I missing something? Thanks, I guess my lift issues may have been a blessing as they led to finding the crack. Weigh those facts, and it probably works out that even a lightly-used tractor should have the fluid changed at least once a year. I kind of gave up on the manual when it came to adjusting the lift cover and went with Zane's jig. I have the same problem. John Thanks for the suggestion. No warm-up needed on cold winter mornings to get the lift to work. Where are they and what do they look like? I'm a little confused on the weld issue. Our property is covered with Douglas Firs. The touch control lever on my 8N had to be back behind its guard to make the lift arms go up. WRONG! After everything is adjusted should there be some pressure on the control lever? Now it is only used about 10 Hours a year. There are two piston assemblies that should move at the same time, and in opposite directions. What youre hearing is the sound of cams/pistons in the pump banging together. Almost left this one out. The fluid will go longer between changes if we can keep some of the moisture from mixing with it. My pic is attached. When it stops, tighten the plug. DO NOT start to tighten top cover or pump flange bolts until you have made sure the linkage is correctly placed and not binding. Simple. "logo": { Wear them enough and you forget you have them on. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. 6 - Has it been more than a year since the fluid was changed? May be where I end up depending on what Zane says. Wrong? 3 - Is it below freezing now? "@context":"https://schema.org", I'll let you know how I do. While reinstalling saw this significant crack in the lift ram arm. "userInteractionCount": 5 It may not have been changed in many years. There has got to be a better way. Then, wet some rags & stuff them in the cover to catch the shavings when you grind it back down. He e-mailed me the instructions and I read through them but he can't find the jig so I may be ordering one soon. 2 - Did it freeze last night? Start the tractor, press the clutch, make sure the PTO is engaged. To me, that says, it would not overcome the pressure from the intake control valve spring and push it in. I.E., I can grab it and move it freely front to back. Took the yoke off the draft sensing spring. And the control rod must be perfectly straight. 2023 Ford Fordson Collectors Association All Rights Reserved. If after installed I need further adjustment I'll use the split washer trick. Of course we would recommend welding / brazing it or taking some where while it is apart . Make a The same friend that has your jig told me he thought that would be a tough job and to just weld it. I have a friend that has your jig (or, I should say purchased one). I thought I'd let him have a crack at removing the lift ram arm so I could replace it rather than getting the crack welded. Condition: completing the adjustment. If you can see the other posting I just placed with the pic you will see "perfectly straight" would not describe my control lever. If that is loose or the seal was leaking, plan on replacing the bearing and seal while you have it out. Finally, I think I'll just get one of your jigs. 8N - Hydraulic Lift - Troubleshooting, by Zane Sherman . Replace with the correct hardened dowel pin part number 374072S from Ford/New Holland. When the air cools moisture condenses on all those cool metal surfaces inside the sump. It just ain't possible to adjust the lift linkage on the 8N Ford unless you have a jig to use so that the end of the control rod ends up in the right position. BTW, did you see my bent control arm pic? Start the tractor, press the clutch, make sure the PTO is engaged. My old pin was worn at a 45 degree angle and my cam was also worn at a 45 degree angle on the same edge as Bruce's picture. To raise the plow pull touch control all the way up to raise the plow. Also, the draft sensing spring seat can be deformed by the implement bouncing up and down during transport over rough terrain. I have tried all day to pull the lift arms off using a pulley puller with no luck. Don't put your body under or in line with any force you are employing. Once I get the lift arm ram welded I will proceed with the jig. Thus, I removed the hydraulic control unit to adjust it. Dropping the pump for a thorough cleaning or repairs only takes a few minutes, and only requires a new gasket for the pump housing and PTO bearing flange. Now Zane, that sounds like a challenge that I'm up to. It has a tendency to accumulate moisture from condensation inside the gear cases and the water collects in the bottom of the sump where it is drawn directly into the hydraulic pump. "publisher": { If you have an implement on the lift and it drifts down over a few minutes time after the tractor is shut off you have some leakage. Chances are, you will find that the valve pivot is stuck and not moving. Here is the pic. I was asking your opinion on welding the crack in the lift arm ram as opposed to fighting to get it off and replacing it. Identify My Tractor It just ain't possible to adjust the lift linkage on the 8N Ford unless you have a jig to use so that the end of the control rod ends up in the right position. The V8-8N has a Howard step-down that provides a second range of gears approximately 1/3 the normal gear ratios. } Attach a heavy implement (anything weighing at least 150 pounds should be enough). I couldn't even get the lift arm off of the end of the splined shaft. Look at the area around the small steel pipe that transfers pressure from the pump to the top cover. Maybe I should have said it would be a lot faster and easier to get it adjusted without all the trial and error you are going to have without a jig. It will only raise the plow with touch all the way up. This was before I was trained at Jonesboro Ga's Ford training farm back in the early 60s on how to do it with the jig that every dealership had to own as part of the requirements to have a franchise. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Right. Have a friend with a MIG welder but Zane advised 7018 stick welding, which I'm sure I could get done in town. Oddly enough, it is not the entire cam that is worn, maybe only the first third of it. Once I get the lift arm ram welded I will proceed with the jig. Any moisture we can drain off this way will not be in there to mix with the fluid when it warms up. The NAA piston and seal will cost more to replace than just buying new cast iron rings. How's this procedure Zane? The fluid we find in most of these tractors is often sadly neglected. My lift is very jerky and erratic when raising.. The most common cause of leakdown is worn lift cylinder piston rings. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Thanks. With about 800 pounds on the lift arms, the front tires start to come off the ground. It is bent forward which I thought would help if anything, wrong? 2023 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners. BTW, did you see my bent control arm pic? This means it works better as a year-round fluid. No problems with cavitation for my live hydraulics external pumps. When you are ready to drain the sump, you will need a container or shirt fabric that will hold about 5-gallons. I'll hold off on that and try without first. Same trouble as you were having. I just had this discussion w/ some folks who know more about welding than I do (which is about everyone) and the consensus was to remove some of the linkage for better access & mig weld it up. Ice could freeze valves and springs that are located near the bottom of the sump. If a leak gets worse than a few drips, fix it. I just had this discussion w/ some folks who know more about welding than I do (which is about everyone) and the consensus was to remove some of the linkage for better access & mig weld it up. A weak lift may not work at all with synthetic fluid. "width": 200, My old pin was worn at a 45 degree angle and my cam was also worn at a 45 degree angle on the same edge as Bruce's picture. With the early linkage you grab both pieces and stretch them into place. Welding certainly sounds easier if it will do the job. Get to the tough questions and you go all shy on me? It is bent forward which I thought would help if anything, wrong? "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", I have a friend that has your jig (or, I should say purchased one). "@type":"DiscussionForumPosting", "dateModified": "2001-10-31", Yes. And the control rod must be perfectly straight. I mite as well add my opinion in on the rocker ware Welding is my call? It is bent forward which I thought would help if anything, wrong? None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. "interactionStatistic": { Thanks. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Just beat it flat that's all you need to do Do you have the lift cover off if so wait for the jig you may not need the washer trickBut if you do you may have to get different thickness washers I have found you can move the draft plunger in to far by using a washer that's to thick All in said and done preform the first step adjust the draft control as Zane instructed the rest will fall into place Life will be good welding is your call welding is your call Welding is my call? Pic attached. If someone has substituted bolts where there should be pins, replace them with the correct hardware. There is only one position in which the quadrant support plate can be located where both of the above conditions will be met. Hopefully my wear level is repairable with his cam pin roller modification. "url": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/graphics/smllogo.png", The 8N hydraulic system is simple yet elegant and works great when properly adjusted and maintained. Do you see that as well or just my original post and your responses? Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for HYDRAULIC TRANSPORT VALVE LOCK FIT FOR MASSEY TAFE ALL MODEL TRACTORS at the best online prices at eBay! Time for a pump rebuild. Ice could block passages that allow oil to get into the pump. Its also highly recommended that you change the hydraulic oil (gear oil) and keep it fresh and clean at all times. My guess is that someone used a pin that was too short & too hard. "height": 57 On the 8N tractors there is only one link that needs to be guided into the pocket on the valve assembly. Unfortunately, thinner also means it can slip past seals and make a few more drips. Never plow, etc. "author": { Tractor Restoration | Tractor Clubs | Tractor Shows |Tractor Repair | Repair Videos. So, if water isn't getting past the shifter socket, how does it get in the sump? For a trailer queen, we would rebuild all the seals and stop the drips. Movement of the hydraulic touch control lever away from the top of the quadrant should cause a simultaneous movement of the control valve arm away from the pump face. Or do I need to move it to "position Control" to transport my plow? 17). My pic is attached. ", "name": "Jasmith503" You can use one drain pan to catch the fluid by starting with the pipe plug under the rear end, moving forward to the large plug at the hydraulic pump, and then the last one at the transmission. Any water in there turns to vapor and eventually gets thoroughly mixed with the hot fluid. It is bent to the front which I would think would help me. Such folks bend it with a length of pipe in the inspection port(s). " Some people recommend flushing the system with kerosene or diesel fuel. Loosen the 4 bolts holding the quadrant control lever bracket to the top cover. 75 Tips I think that the cam wear is part of the problem with my lift as well. In cold climates the water can freeze and break the chambers in the pump. Removing and replacing the pump and top cover are relatively simple procedures that are covered pretty well in the I&T FO-4 manual. Terms and Privacy Policy, Shows and EventsF/FCA ShowsFeatured ShowsPrevious F/FCA Shows, ServiceMaintenance & RepairsOriginal AccessoriesSherman TransmissionsSpecifications & Data, Equipment RegistryEarly 9N by S/NRoad Maintainer Registry, Restorations150 80N Show Tractor47 8N Restoration8N Funk Conversions8N LawnmowerSOS LawnmowerSt Jude 8n ProjectWorthington Tractors. Simple. Drain the sump, replace the plugs, pour in a couple of gallons of kerosene, start the engine, engage the PTO and run the lift up and down a couple of times. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. Its generally not an immediate pressing problem. Thanks for you help!! Pull the dipstick and see where the level is. Welding is my call? Working the tractor gets the fluid very warm. ", Any comments would be welcome. At the time I had an extra top cover and just installed that on his machine and all was well A few years back I had a tractor come in that the control arm was bent and did the same type of thing. If you plan to flush it anyway, drain the plugs in any order you want. It is critical. Then, wet some rags & stuff them in the cover to catch the shavings when you grind it back down. This post was edited by jasmith503 at 16:49:31 06/09/15. If the relief valve is leaking you will see the oil bubbling up from the pump area. }, Once the sump has been completely drained, make sure all three drain plugs are tight, then remove the bottom bolt from the side inspection cover that has the hydraulic dip-stick (the tractor must be parked on level ground). I can remove the cover and post a pic if it will help. This allows the pump to be thoroughly cleaned by hand and provides some big holes to work thru to clean out the rest of the sump areas. When the pump is new you get a slight knocking as the lift reaches the set height. Tractor Identification & History, About F/FCA Hydraulic Control Lever fits Ford 9N 700 4000 8N 900 NAA 600 2000 601 2N 800 . We had one in the shop but I didn't have a clue what it was for until I attended the training session on the lift. It appears you have just learned this to be true! "text": "I have cleaned, rebuilt and reinstalled my hydraulic pump. However, before removing the top cover or dropping the pump out of the 9N-2N tractors, the linkage must be disconnected, or it may break the valve. While reinstalling saw this significant crack in the lift ram arm. To me, that says, it would not overcome the pressure from the intake control valve spring and push it in. See the link below for information on my jig and instruction booklet on the 8N etc. Do you see that as well or just my original post and your responses? I have copied the steps from my August 18, 1948 operators manual below. Of course, once you diagnose the problem you still need to fix it! Can't remember if bent toward the front, back, or sideways. Should the cam be smooth across its width? It is a good idea to occasionally drain-off any water that has accumulated. Go just a little too far and you will get several gallons of fluid in the face or running down your arm as you frantically try to thread the plug back in. (b) Operation of Valve. Check the pump pressure as outlined in the I&T FO-4 manual. May be where I end up depending on what Zane says. And the control rod must be perfectly straight. Is the something else I should change to get the valve to completely open? I have an older Ford 8 N. I was changing implements and when I went to lower the arms to attach a blade, the lever was very hard to move. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Right. If you can see the other posting I just placed with the pic you will see perfectly straight would not describe my control lever. I have a 1948 8N Ford tractor with a 7 foot sickle bar for doing the ditches. Hold the hydraulic touch control lever at the top of the quadrant and gently tap the quadrant support plate forward or backward until both of the above requirements are fulfilled. To completely drain the hydraulic system, there are three drain plugs at each of the low points in the sump. You can determine if the leakage is coming from the lift cylinder by removing the right side cover (the one with the dipstick) and starting the tractor. Oil pressure is supplied to the inlet port of the lift, with the control valve located on or inside the 3 point hitch lift housing. Yes. Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Linkage bent or adjustments not done correctly. Get the adjusting jig from Zane. Slide the quadrant bracket toward the rear of the tractor (bolt holes are elongated). If the hydraulics drift down, that usually means the relief valve is squeaking by. I guess I wasn't clear how futile my effort was to get the lift arm ram off. The control lever and quadrant moves the valve spools on the pump to control the lift. I'm new to this forum stuff. After yesterday I don't have a clue how I could get the ram arm out. The issue that I am having is with the lifting of an implement on the 3pt. A premium synthetic that says it "MEETS" NH-410B (M2C-134D) is much thinner than 80 or 90 weight gear oil. Dean Here is the pic. Many times you will find that simply replacing the worn pin will take care of the problem without any further adjustments, but you have to completely reassemble the tractor to find out if you are lucky or not. This post was edited by jasmith503 at 16:49:31 06/09/15. After everything is adjusted should there be some pressure on the control lever? A short tutorial of hydraulic repair on a Ford 8N is available here. If you have deep scratches and do not want to spend the money to replace the entire cylinder assembly you should use the cast iron rings and live with the small leakage. Then, if you have a jig, adjust the linkage to specs. LeRoy, my 1951 8n had not been started for 4 years. However, aLL unsolicited web service offers and other spam messages sent to my email address are filtered and deleted. The determining factor in which way to go is the condition of the cylinder bore. The 3-point lift will pick up a lot more weight close to the tractor, than it will out on the end of a boom pole. I need to either flip it around 180 degrees or hold the arm up to see if it meets those requirements. I don't mind if they mark their territory with an occasional drip. My lift drifts down when the pto stops.. I don't have a welder. Can't remember if bent toward the front, back, or sideways. I'll let you know how I do. I previously posted a pic of the crack. "publisher": { There was a slight "curve" to it, but it had worked in the past with it so I thought , "what the heck". As for the adjustment, I followed the instructions in the very old version of the I&T Shop manual I have. You must log in or register to reply here. I cant seem to find if this is one solid tube? I also checked the length of the constant draft control spring, and adjusted the position control spring to the specified 1 29/32 inches. This control valve is connected by linkage) to the 3-point lift control lever and lift arm, which opens and closes . This is listed as a 5/16 x 7/8 dowel pin but it is actually .309 diameter not 5/16 (.3125). (b) Operation of Valve. While I was working on the hydraulic system, I decided I would make a seperate short video detailing the hydraulic lift cover linkage adjustment If welding the crack will do the trick it looks to me the easier way to go and then obviously building up the cam and using the original ridge as a guide to grind to will be a snap. Two large plugs under the transmission, and hydraulic pump, and one smaller pipe plug under the differential housing. { When I was plowing in the spring, when the arms were actually as low as it would go and the tractor would start to loose traction, a slight lift of the position lever would bring the plow up, but then I would have to push down on the draft control lever to get the plow to go higher. Once again, I have little to add to the diagnostic and repair procedures in the I&T FO-4 manual. How's this procedure Zane? Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see If I could not add metal to build up the worn part of the cam I would install a longer pin and live with it . NO, I do not want help improving my ranking on search engines. As with other things, I like to tackle any sort of lift problem by first checking the possible causes that are No-Cost or Low-Cost items. If my brother-in-law has any luck with that I'll use your suggestion on cutting the arm ram off. That adjustment would work on a lift that was prestine but it ain't! No leaks, and no indication of suction, could be stuck valves or something major broken in the pump. So, you guilted me into starting with step one. Welding certainly sounds easier if it will do the job. Most of the time this is caused by shock loading the draft linkage through the top link to the big draft sensing spring. Pic attached. 8n position control adjustment discussion in the Ford 9N.draft links changes the deflection of the load control shaft PGJ Installation and Adjustment of Arch, Radius, Precipitation Rate and Nozzle with Video Some of the most frequently asked ones are listed at the bottom of this page An estimator to track the states of the UAV using the images. ", Figured that out after I sent the last message. Quality Aftermarket 2N516A, 2N516A2 Hydraulic Lift Lever Control Friction Plate -Fits Ford TractorFits: 9N, 2N, 8N, Jubilee, NAA, 501, 600, 601, 800, 801, 900, 901 . The worst spot for that is the drain plug where the pump is. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} gtag('js', new Date()); gtag('config', 'G-04SJ2KTSCK',{ cookie_flags: 'max-age=7200;secure;samesite=none' }); Welcome! My hydraulic pump makes knocking noises under load.. 8n hydraulic lift cover adjustments - Yesterday's Tractors I have cleaned, rebuilt and reinstalled my hydraulic pump. I've seen a 1200-pound round bale on a 3-point bale spike on the back of an 8N, but he also had a loader bucket on the front to help balance the weight. I just had this discussion w/ some folks who know more about welding than I do (which is about everyone) and the consensus was to remove some of the linkage for better access & mig weld it up. . Now it is only used about 10 Hours a year. Then, wet some rags & stuff them in the cover to catch the shavings when you grind it back down. These rings are still available, inexpensive and will work just fine, but a small amount of leakdown is normal and is to be expected with them. If temperatures have been below freezing, the water will freeze. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. My guess is that someone used a pin that was too short & too hard. The most common complaints are addressed below. I previously posted a pic of the crack. The main reason we replace the fluid is the amount of water that eventually has mixed with it. May be where I end up depending on what Zane says. I'll send an e-mail to your site. Thanks to John Smith of Old Ford Tractor for allowing us to use this information. Measuring parts just won't cut it when all the parts are not still the same shape and measurement that they were when new about 50 years ago. Raise the lift control lever and watch inside the cavity for oil spraying out in the area of the relief valve or from the side of the cavity where the tube is located. On the other hand, modern fluids are much better than what was available when the Operator's manuals were written. The position control pin and the control arm were both bent. "width": 200, Also, on that same end of the plunger there was pretty significant wear (I assume wear and not casted this way) from rubbing on the alignment dowel on the back of the anchor plate. Check the bearing. Make sure the rod is connected and that it is moving the control valve spools in and out as you move the lift control lever up and down. Enough to cause the lift issues? It is bent to the front which I would think would help me. "mainEntityOfPage": { I was thinking the top cover needed to be on the tractor to get the leverage to remove the yoke. I don't have a welder. That adjustment would work on a lift that was prestine but it ain't! While these tips are specifically for the Ford 8N, many other models of antique tractors will show similar symptoms when their hydraulics need attention. Such folks bend it with a length of pipe in the inspection port(s). Zane I would cut a big V into the crack and weld it with a 7018 rod. The oil sump holds 5 gallons that is shared with the transmission and rear end of the tractor. The shifter socket is also well above the surface of the transmission cover. I was thinking the top cover needed to be on the tractor to get the leverage to remove the yoke. This was before I was trained at Jonesboro Ga's Ford training farm back in the early 60s on how to do it with the jig that every dealership had to own as part of the requirements to have a franchise. I did take a look at it before I put it back together. Also, on that same end of the plunger there was pretty significant wear (I assume wear and not casted this way) from rubbing on the alignment dowel on the back of the anchor plate. Be sure to have a good welder do it. Then remove all three plugs, and let it drip into pans overnight. Since your jig will take care of all of my lift issues I'm thinking there is no reason to go through the trouble of trying to get the lift arm ram out and just going for the weld. The NH-410B is the current New Holland Agriculture OEM specification that is equivalent to Ford ESN-M2C-134D. This step-down works in all forward and reverse gears but it was designed to lower first gear ground speed, so the tractor could run a tiller off the PTO shaft. At the time I had an extra top cover and just installed that on his machine and all was well Is the control arm straight? Such folks bend it with a length of pipe in the inspection port(s). 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